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Causal AI, with Dr. Robert Usazuwa Ness

Added on July 29, 2025 by Jon Krohn.

Today's guest, Dr. Robert Osazuwa Ness, wrote the popular new book "Causal A.I." so enjoy this episode on what Causal A.I. is and what advantages it has over "normal" (correlation-based) models.

Robert:

• Senior Researcher at "Microsoft Research A.I."

• His research focuses on statistical and causal inference techniques for controllable, human-aligned multimodal models.

• He is also founder of Altdeep.ai, where he teaches professionals advanced topics in machine learning.

• Holds a PhD in Statistics from Purdue University in Indiana.

Today’s episode will resonate most with hands-on practitioners like data scientists, statisticians and A.I. engineers.

In today’s episode, Robert details:

• The three-rung ladder of causation that determines what types of causal questions you can actually answer with your data.

• The surprising connections between Bayesian networks, graphical models and modern causal A.I.

• Why A.I. systems have been dominated by correlation-based learning and what's stopping them from adopting causal reasoning like humans and animals naturally do.

• How tools like PyTorch, Pyro, and DoWhy are revolutionizing causal inference by separating statistical complexity from causal assumptions.

• How large language models like GPT-4o can act as "causal knowledge bases" and outperform traditional causal methods in some scenarios.

The SuperDataScience podcast is available on all major podcasting platforms, YouTube, and at SuperDataScience.com.

In Data Science, Interview, Podcast, SuperDataScience, YouTube Tags superdatascience, causality, causalai, ai, python
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