Teams of Agents: The Next Frontier in AI Collaboration, with Mike Pell

Special episode for you today (filmed in front of a live audience!) with the inventor and exceptional communicator, Mike Pell. Hear his vision for the way teams of A.I. agents will change work and life for the better.

Today’s episode features a session I hosted a couple weeks ago in Brooklyn at the inaugural "A.I. & Creativity Summit", which was run by Artist and the Machine. It was an excellent full-day event on a gloriously sunny day.

My guest for an on-stage conversation in front of a live audience was the extraordinary Mike Pell:

• Inventor of the PDF and Adobe Acrobat.

• Director of The Microsoft Garage, a global innovation program.

• Holds over 20 US Patents.

• Author of three books.

Today’s episode is entertaining, optimistic and forward-looking and will be of interest to any listener of my podcast.

In the episode, Mike details:

• Why A.I. agents are like an exoskeleton that gives you capabilities you never had time to master.

• The coming shift from passive to proactive A.I. that will interject like a trusted coworker.

• Why he believes we're "getting to the good part" in the A.I. revolution and what that means for the future of work.

The SuperDataScience podcast is available on all major podcasting platforms, YouTube, and at SuperDataScience.com.

In Case You Missed It in April 2025

We had a record number of guests on my podcast in April — and they were spectacular! In today's "In Case You Missed It" episode, hear the best parts of my conversations with each of them.

The specific conversation highlights included in today's episode are:

1. Sama Bali from NVIDIA and Logan Lawler from Dell Technologies fill us in on the AI software stack on NVIDIA GPUs, including libraries like CUDA.

2. Continuing on the A.I. hardware topic, Emily Webber details Amazon Web Services (AWS)'s own A.I. accelerator chips.

3. Zerve AI's co-founder Dr. Greg Michaelson describes how data scientists can deploy A.I. models to production without needing to call on an engineering team.

4. Kai Beckmann, CEO of Merck KGaA's semiconductor business, describes intricate details of the semiconductors that make A.I. systems hum.

5. Finally, Shirish Gupta explains his "A-I-P-C" framework for finding out if you should be using edge compute for local A.I. inference instead of relying on cloud compute.

The SuperDataScience podcast is available on all major podcasting platforms, YouTube, and at SuperDataScience.com.

In Case You Missed It in March 2025

We had absolutely killer guests and killer conversations on my podcast in March. This isn't bluster; I learned a ton from Andriy, Richmond, Natalie and Varun... Today's episode features all the best highlights!

The specific conversation highlights included in today's episode are:

1. The mega-bestselling author of "The 100-Page Machine Learning Book" (and now "The 100-Page Language Models Book"!) Dr. Andriy Burkov on the missing piece of AGI: Why LLMs can't plan or self-reflect.

2. Relatedly, the fascinating and exceptionally well-spoken Natalie Monbiot contrasted artificial intelligence with the human variety, detailing what makes us unique.

3. The charismatic software engineer Richmond Alake (of MongoDB) explained his "A.I. Stack" concept and how you can leverage it to build better A.I. applications.

4. Former Google Gemini engineer Varun Godbole provides a helpful overview of guide to neural network design, the (freely available!) "Deep Learning Tuning Playbook".

The SuperDataScience podcast is available on all major podcasting platforms, YouTube, and at SuperDataScience.com.

In Case You Missed It in February 2025

February was another insane month on my podcast. In addition to having stunning smiles, all four guests I hosted are fascinating, highly knowledgeable experts. Today's episode features highlights of my convos with them.

The specific conversation highlights included in today's episode are:

1. Professional-athlete-turned-data-engineer Colleen Fotsch on how DBT simplifies data modeling and documentation.

2. Engineer-turned-entrepreneur Vaibhav Gupta on the new programming language, BAML, he created for AI applications. He details how BAML will save you time and a considerable amount of money when calling LLM APIs.

3. Professor Frank Hutter on how TabPFN, the first deep learning approach to become the state of the art for modeling tabular data (i.e., the structured rows and columns of data that, until now, deep learning was feeble at modeling).

4. The ebullient Cal Al-Dhubaib on the keys to scaling (and selling!) a thriving data science consultancy.

The SuperDataScience podcast is available on all major podcasting platforms, YouTube, and at SuperDataScience.com.

In Case You Missed It in January 2025

Happy Valentine's Day 💘 ! My high-calorie gift to you is today's episode, which features the best highlights from conversations I had with the (absolutely epic!) guests I hosted on my podcast in January.

The specific conversation highlights included in today's episode are:

1. Famed futurist Azeem Azhar on how to break your linear mindset to prepare for the exponential technological change that we are experiencing (and will experience even more rapidly in years to come).

2. Global quantum-computing expert Dr. Florian Neukart on practical, real-world applications of quantum computing today.

3. Kirill Eremenko and Hadelin de Ponteves — who have together taught over 5 million people data science — with their 12-step checklist for selecting an appropriate foundation model (e.g., large language model) for a given application.

4. Brooke Hopkins (former engineer at Waymo, now founder and CEO of Y Combinator-backed startup Coval) on why you should evaluate A.I. agents with reference-free metrics.

The SuperDataScience podcast is available on all major podcasting platforms, YouTube, and at SuperDataScience.com.

How to Ensure AI Agents Are Accurate and Reliable, with Brooke Hopkins

Agentic A.I. is powerful because it has infinite breadth of capability. But this is a double-edged sword: Agents entail great risk and testing their performance is tricky... until now — thanks to Brooke Hopkins, today's guest!

Brooke:

Is Founder & CEO of Coval (YC S24), a San Francisco-based startup that provides a simulation and evaluation platform for A.I. agents. A few days ago, they announced a $3.3m fundraise that includes heavyhitter VCs like General Catalyst, MaC and Y Combinator.

• Previously was Tech Lead and Senior Software Engineer at Waymo, where she worked on simulation and evaluation for Waymo’s self-driving cars.

• Before that, she was a Software Engineer at Google.

• She holds a degree in Computer Science and Mathematics from New York University’s Abu Dhabi campus.

Despite Brooke’s highly technical background, our conversation is largely conceptual and high-level, allowing anyone who’s interested in developing and deploying Agentic A.I. applications to enjoy today’s episode.

In today’s episode, Brooke details:

• How simulation and testing best practices inspired by autonomous-vehicle development are being applied by her team at Coval to make A.I. agents useful and trustworthy in the real world.

• Why voice agents are poised to be the next major platform shift after mobile, creating entirely new ways to interact with technology.

• How companies are using creative strategies like "background overthinkers" to make A.I. agents more robust.

• What the rise of A.I. agents means for the future of human work and creativity… indeed, how agents will transform all of society.

The SuperDataScience podcast is available on all major podcasting platforms, YouTube, and at SuperDataScience.com.

In Case You Missed It in December 2024

Today's "In Case You Missed it Episode"... is one not to miss! Several of the most fascinating conversations I've ever had on the SuperDataScience Podcast I host happened in December.

The specific conversation highlights included in today's episode are:

1. The legendary Dr. Andrew Ng on why LLM cost doesn't matter for your A.I. proof of concept.

2. Building directly on Andrew's segment, CTO (and my fellow Nebula.io co-founder) Ed Donner on how to choose the right LLM for a given application.

3. Extremely intelligent and clear-spoken Dr. Eiman Ebrahimi (CEO of Protopia AI) on the future of autonomous systems and data security in our Agentic A.I. future.

4. From our 2024 recap episode, Sadie St. Lawrence's three biggest A.I. "wow" moments of the year... as well as the biggest flop of the year. (One company was behind both!)

5. Harvard/MIT humanist chaplain Greg Epstein (and bestselling author on tech in society) on the ethics of accelerating A.I. advancements. Should we, for example, consider slowing A.I. progress down?

The SuperDataScience podcast is available on all major podcasting platforms, YouTube, and at SuperDataScience.com.

In Case You Missed It in November 2024

We had a ton of laughs and I had some seriously mind-expanding moments thanks to my guests on the SuperDataScience Podcast last month. ICYMI, today's episode highlights the most riveting moments from November.

The specific conversation highlights included in today's episode are:

1. Deepali Vyas, Global Head of Data and A.I. at executive-search giant Korn Ferry, on how A.I. is transforming recruitment and how job-seekers can stay ahead of the curve.

2. Jess Ramos, data analyst and leading content creator on data careers, on where to start if you yourself are seeking a career in data.

3. Bryan McCann, co-founder and CTO of the rapidly-scaling A.I. platform You.com, on why machines will make much better scientists than humans... and how they will surpass human scientists surprisingly soon.

4. Martin Goodson, CEO of the prestigious British A.I. firm Evolution AI, on how the public figures who are speaking most loudly about A.I. are probably not the people we should be listening to.

The SuperDataScience podcast is available on all major podcasting platforms, YouTube, and at SuperDataScience.com.

How to Become Happier, with Dr. Nat Ware

On most metrics, it's never been a better time to be alive. And yet, many of us are unhappy. In today's episode, Dr. Nat Ware explains why we're unhappy... and, mercifully, what we can do about it!

Nat:

• Is a renowned keynote speaker; he has one TEDx talk alone that has over 2 million views on YouTube (it forms the basis of the content in today’s episode).

• Is the social-impact entrepreneur behind 180 Degrees Consulting (the world's largest consultancy for non-profits) as well as Forté (a startup that facilitates cost-free reskilling of workforces).

• Holds both a doctorate in economics and an MBA from the University of Oxford.

Today’s episode should be fascinating to anyone. In it, Nat details:

• Why, despite life on this planet being better than ever before, humans are so unhappy.

• Concrete guidance on what you can do to become happier.

The SuperDataScience podcast is available on all major podcasting platforms, YouTube, and at SuperDataScience.com.

In Case You Missed It in October 2024

It's unreal to be able to speak to folks like the guests I hosted on the SuperDataScience Podcast last month. ICYMI, today's episode highlights the most riveting moments from October.

The specific conversation highlights included in today's episode are:

1. UC San Diego neuroscience professor Dr. Bradley Voytek on how data science facilitates breakthroughs in our understanding of the brain.

2. Eloquent Natalie Monbiot on how lifelike, digital versions of ourselves can scale up our public-facing work.

3. Lightning AI CTO Dr. Luca Antiga on where he sees generative A.I. being most useful in our professional lives.

4. Gable CEO Chad Sanderson on how, when we work with data, we always need to think about how downstream users might come to interpret our data... which is why he finds data contracts so important that he's writing an O'Reilly book about it.

5. Polars CEO Ritchie Vink on the incredible specs (e.g., efficiency speedups) of his open-source DataFrame-operations library for Python.

The SuperDataScience podcast is available on all major podcasting platforms, YouTube, and at SuperDataScience.com.

In Case You Missed It in September 2024

Another month, another set of invaluable conversations on the SuperDataScience Podcast I host. ICYMI, today's episode highlights the most fascinating moments from September.

The specific conversation highlights included in today's episode are:

1. Posit PBC engineering manager Dr. Julia Silge explains why Positron, the next-generation IDE she's leading development of, is better-suited to data scientists than any existing IDE.

2. PyTorch expert Luka Anicin provides his top tips for training more accurate and compute-efficient ML models.

3. Exceptional open-source developer Marco Gorelli on why Polars is anywhere from 10 to 100x faster than Pandas, the incumbent Python library for working with DataFrames.

4. Microsoft's Marck Vaisman on what companies hiring data scientists should be looking for... as opposed to what the typically (and mistakenly!) look for today.

The SuperDataScience podcast is available on all major podcasting platforms, YouTube, and at SuperDataScience.com.

In Case You Missed It in August 2024

We had a slew of eye-opening conversations in August on the SuperDataScience Podcast I host. ICYMI, today's episode highlights the most fascinating moments from my convos with them.

Specifically, conversation highlights include:

1. ChainML's Head of A.I. Education Shingai Manjengwa on how multiple, individual A.I. agents can come together to perform complex actions.

2. Renowned futurist and entrepreneur Dr. Daniel Hulme on how A.I. can help us become better and faster at our jobs by circumventing the traditional corporate hierarchies that today seem only to slow us down.

3. Mathematical-optimization guru Jerome Yurchisin (of Gurobi Optimization) on how continuing education will be vital in our increasingly automated work environment... and how this education will be streamlined by A.I.

4. Nick Elprin, Co-Founder and CEO of the wildly successful Domino Data Lab, on why it's essential for enterprises to clearly define their A.I. infrastructure in order for their A.I. deployments to prosper.

Check out today's episode (#818) to hear all these eye-opening conversations. The "Super Data Science Podcast with Jon Krohn" is available on all major podcasting platforms and a video version is on YouTube.

The SuperDataScience podcast is available on all major podcasting platforms, YouTube, and at SuperDataScience.com.

In Case You Missed It in July 2024

In July, we had a yet another bevy of extraordinary guests on the SuperDataScience Podcast I host. ICYMI, this episode highlights the most fascinating moments from my convos with them.

Specifically, conversation highlights include:

1. Iconic Daliana Liu (ex-AWS Senior Data Scientist; host of The Data Scientist Show) on the hard skills data scientists need most in today's market.

2. Pulitzer prize-winning journalist and many-time NY Times bestselling author Charles Duhigg on the secrets to being a "Supercommunicator", i.e., getting people invested in your ideas and opening up.

3. Arcee.ai's CEO Mark McQuade and Chief of Frontier Research Charles Goddard detail the frontier "model merging" technique whereby the capabilities of multiple LLMs can be combined without increasing model size.

4. Prolific Google DeepMind researcher Dr. Rosanne Liu (no relation to Daliana!) on her landmark “Beyond the Imitation Game" paper, particularly why all LLM benchmarks are flawed.

5. Andrey Kurenkov, PhD (A.I. Engineering Lead at Astrocade and founder/co-host of my favorite podcast, "Last Week in A.I.") on how Artificial Superintelligence (ASI) may be just a few years and what the implications could be for us as individuals as well as as a society.

The SuperDataScience podcast is available on all major podcasting platforms, YouTube, and at SuperDataScience.com.

In Case You Missed It in June 2024

June was yet another month of phenomenal guests on the SuperDataScience Podcast I host. ICYMI, today's episode highlights the most fascinating moments of my conversations with them.

Specifically, conversation highlights include:

1. Dr. Jason Yosinski, one of my all-time favorite deep-learning researchers and CEO/co-founder of climate-tech startup Windscape AI, shares the secrets to capturing investor interest and what it takes to turn heads in the AI startup scene. Spoiler alert: it’s more than just having a great idea! 🚀

2. Dr. Gina Guillaume-Joseph, systems engineer and A.I.-regulation guru, details the evolving regulatory field for A.I., helping you ensure that the A.I. systems you deploy won't fall foul of any laws.

3. Alexandre Andorra, co-founder of PyMC Labs and host of the Learning Bayesian Statistics podcast, on why being able to crunch larger and larger datasets has helped us to use a powerful modeling technique that was originally devised centuries ago (Bayesian stats, of course!)

4. Dr. Nathan Lambert, research scientist for the Allen Institute for AI (AI2) who previously built out the reinforcement learning from human feedback (RLHF) team at Hugging Face, on the lack of robustness in RLHF and how that could impact the future development and deployment of AI systems.

The SuperDataScience podcast is available on all major podcasting platforms, YouTube, and at SuperDataScience.com.

A Transformative Century of Technological Progress, with Annie P.

For today's special episode (#800), I learned from my 94-year-old grandmother the tricks to living before electricity or running water... and how the wild tech transformation of the past century has impacted her.

In a bit more detail, in this episode, Annie covers:

• What work and life were like growing up on a farm with no electricity or running water.

• How education, communication, security, entertainment and food storage have evolved over her lifetime.

• Similarities between geopolitical events in the 1930s and events transpiring today.

The SuperDataScience podcast is available on all major podcasting platforms, YouTube, and at SuperDataScience.com.

In Case You Missed It in May 2024

We had another incredible set of guests in May on the SuperDataScience Podcast I host. ICYMI, today's episode highlights the most fascinating moments of my conversations with them.

Specifically, conversation highlights include:

1. Dr. Luis Serrano, a math- and ML-education YouTuber with 150k subscribers, explaining what language embeddings are, how they function, and how essential they are for running semantic search queries.

2. Sol Rashidi, serial C-suite data-role executive at Fortune 100s and bestselling author of "Your A.I. Survival Guide", on her approach to building data teams.

3. Co-founder of the MLOps Community, Demetrios Brinkmann, on the differences between ML Engineering and MLOps roles.

4. Navdeep Martin, an entrepreneur blending climate tech and generative A.I. in her latest startup, on opportunities where you can tackle climate change with technological innovation yourself.

The SuperDataScience podcast is available on all major podcasting platforms, YouTube, and at SuperDataScience.com.

The Six Keys to Data Scientists’ Success, with Kirill Eremenko

For today's episode, Kirill Eremenko — who has taught more than 2.8 million people data science — fills us in on his six most valuable insights about data science careers.

More on Kirill:

• Founder and CEO of SuperDataScience, an e-learning platform that is the namesake of this very podcast.

• Launched the SuperDataScience Podcast in 2016 and hosted the show until he passed me the reins four years ago.

• Has reached more than 2.8 million students through the courses he’s published on Udemy, making him Udemy’s most popular data science instructor.

At a high level, Kirill's six data science insights are:

1. Unlike many other careers, there’s no need for formal credentials to become a data scientist.

2. Mentors can be invaluable guides in a DS career, but you should also try to give back to your mentors when you can.

3. Portfolios are the key to landing the DS job of your dream because they showcase your DS abilities for all to see.

4. Hands-on labs are a fun, interactive way to develop your portfolio and are a great complement to classes.

5. Collaborations can make lots of aspects of DS career development fun, including learning new materials, completing labs and developing your portfolio.

6. Data scientists can come from any background and work from anywhere in the world with an Internet connection.

The SuperDataScience podcast is available on all major podcasting platforms, YouTube, and at SuperDataScience.com.

Aligning Large Language Models, with Sinan Ozdemir

For today’s quick Five-Minute Friday episode, the exceptional author, speaker and entrepreneur Sinan Ozdemir provides an overview of what it actually means for an LLM to be “aligned”.

More on Sinan:
• Is Founder and CTO of LoopGenius, a generative AI startup.
• Has authored several excellent books, including, most recently, the bestselling "Quick Start Guide to Large Language Models".
• Is a serial AI entrepreneur, including founding a Y Combinator-backed generative AI startup way back in 2015 that was later acquired.

This episode was filmed live at the Open Data Science Conference (ODSC) East in Boston last month. Thanks to ODSC for providing recording space.

The Super Data Science Podcast is available on all major podcasting platforms and a video version is on YouTube. This is episode #784!

The SuperDataScience podcast is available on all major podcasting platforms, YouTube, and at SuperDataScience.com.

How to Become a Data Scientist, with Dr. Adam Ross Nelson

Today's episode features Dr. Adam Ross Nelson providing his #1 most useful piece of guidance on "How to Become a Data Scientist" from his book of that very name!

This was filmed live at the Open Data Science Conference (ODSC) East in Boston last week — thanks ODSC East for providing valuable conference space for us to shoot podcast episodes.

The SuperDataScience podcast is available on all major podcasting platforms, YouTube, and at SuperDataScience.com.